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		By: Shashank Varma (Mr Water Geek)		</title>
		<link>https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-22269</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 04:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-22263&quot;&gt;LJ&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi LJ,
Yep, you&#039;re right. Unfortunately, it&#039;s true that the salt-free solutions don&#039;t work as well as salt-based softeners. They&#039;re fine if your hardness is mild but anything worse than mild is difficult for a salt-free product to keep up. Flow rate and contact time with the media matter too, which is tricky to manage at the inlet where we need the water to be flowing at max pressure/flowrate. 

Best,
Shashank
Mr Water Geek]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-22263">LJ</a>.</p>
<p>Hi LJ,<br />
Yep, you&#8217;re right. Unfortunately, it&#8217;s true that the salt-free solutions don&#8217;t work as well as salt-based softeners. They&#8217;re fine if your hardness is mild but anything worse than mild is difficult for a salt-free product to keep up. Flow rate and contact time with the media matter too, which is tricky to manage at the inlet where we need the water to be flowing at max pressure/flowrate. </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Shashank<br />
Mr Water Geek</p>
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		By: LJ		</title>
		<link>https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-22263</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We are on an acreage with well water. We had a salt water softener and it worked great. My husband got sold on the idea of a salt free ion converter system, as it uses less water consumption and the cost decrease of salt. After only a few weeks I noticed mineral deposits in my dishwasher and on my dishes; my laundry whites were not cleaning properly and there was some kind of mineral deposits on all my water fixtures. So frustrating!! The manufacturer just said oh that’s normal, let it run for awhile and get out the remaining old stuff from your tanks. Almost a year later it’s all the same. I convinced my husband to go back to the salt water softener. We lost money as the manufacturer won’t give us a refund. I’m assuming it didn’t work because our well water is high in mineral:calcium…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are on an acreage with well water. We had a salt water softener and it worked great. My husband got sold on the idea of a salt free ion converter system, as it uses less water consumption and the cost decrease of salt. After only a few weeks I noticed mineral deposits in my dishwasher and on my dishes; my laundry whites were not cleaning properly and there was some kind of mineral deposits on all my water fixtures. So frustrating!! The manufacturer just said oh that’s normal, let it run for awhile and get out the remaining old stuff from your tanks. Almost a year later it’s all the same. I convinced my husband to go back to the salt water softener. We lost money as the manufacturer won’t give us a refund. I’m assuming it didn’t work because our well water is high in mineral:calcium…</p>
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		By: Luke George (Mr Water Geek)		</title>
		<link>https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-15165</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2022 20:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-15149&quot;&gt;Joe Wetzel&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Joe

You could consider this &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.springwellwater.com/product/well-water/well-water-filter-and-salt-based-water-softener/?oid=5&amp;affid=11&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener noreferrer ugc&quot;&gt;well water and salt free softener alternative&lt;/a&gt;. It treats the things you mentioned and the softener alternative can treat up to 75 gpg (extremely hard water) without salt.

Stay hydrated,
Luke]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-15149">Joe Wetzel</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Joe</p>
<p>You could consider this <a href="https://www.springwellwater.com/product/well-water/well-water-filter-and-salt-based-water-softener/?oid=5&#038;affid=11" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer ugc">well water and salt free softener alternative</a>. It treats the things you mentioned and the softener alternative can treat up to 75 gpg (extremely hard water) without salt.</p>
<p>Stay hydrated,<br />
Luke</p>
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		By: Joe Wetzel		</title>
		<link>https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-15149</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What would you recommend for my house. I&#039;m on a well with some evidence of iron and calcium deposits. Also on a septic.  Interested in salt free design if possible. Have not had a test of my water yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would you recommend for my house. I&#8217;m on a well with some evidence of iron and calcium deposits. Also on a septic.  Interested in salt free design if possible. Have not had a test of my water yet.</p>
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		By: Luke George (Mr Water Geek)		</title>
		<link>https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-14704</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2022 12:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-14698&quot;&gt;Richard R Jellies&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Richard 

It sounds very complicated but assuming you have enough space and the right access to your plumbing all of that checks out to me.

A traditional salt based softener will just produce soft water irrespective of what type of water you feed into it (pre-conditioned or not).

Stay hydrated,
Luke]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-14698">Richard R Jellies</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Richard </p>
<p>It sounds very complicated but assuming you have enough space and the right access to your plumbing all of that checks out to me.</p>
<p>A traditional salt based softener will just produce soft water irrespective of what type of water you feed into it (pre-conditioned or not).</p>
<p>Stay hydrated,<br />
Luke</p>
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		By: Richard R Jellies		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2022 22:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: I know it&#039;s redundant, but would this crazy idea work or is it a boneheaded idea? Thinking of using a whole house water filtration system, then going into a salt free water conditioning system to feed that into my cold water side for drinking, landscaping etc. I was considering then routing water from my salt free conditioning system into a traditional saltwater softener to feed my tankless hot water heaters. I know my showers, taps etc will then just be a blend of the two waters, but will the softener actually soften water that has been pre-conditioned or is there something in the science that will not allow the traditional water softener to function as it should. Budget is not really the issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: I know it&#8217;s redundant, but would this crazy idea work or is it a boneheaded idea? Thinking of using a whole house water filtration system, then going into a salt free water conditioning system to feed that into my cold water side for drinking, landscaping etc. I was considering then routing water from my salt free conditioning system into a traditional saltwater softener to feed my tankless hot water heaters. I know my showers, taps etc will then just be a blend of the two waters, but will the softener actually soften water that has been pre-conditioned or is there something in the science that will not allow the traditional water softener to function as it should. Budget is not really the issue.</p>
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		By: Luke George		</title>
		<link>https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-9762</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2021 19:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-9759&quot;&gt;gail&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Gail

Is that GPG (grains per gallons) or PPM (parts per million)?

It is most likely PPM because 376 sounds crazy high for GPG, so I calculate 376ppm to be 21.94gpg. 

A salt free softener like &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.springwellwater.com/product/dual-systems/water-filter-salt-softener/?oid=10&#038;affid=11&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener noreferrer ugc&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; can reportedly deal with up to 75gpg so this might be worth looking into.

Stay hydrated,
Luke]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-9759">gail</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Gail</p>
<p>Is that GPG (grains per gallons) or PPM (parts per million)?</p>
<p>It is most likely PPM because 376 sounds crazy high for GPG, so I calculate 376ppm to be 21.94gpg. </p>
<p>A salt free softener like <a href="https://www.springwellwater.com/product/dual-systems/water-filter-salt-softener/?oid=10&amp;affid=11" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer ugc">this</a> can reportedly deal with up to 75gpg so this might be worth looking into.</p>
<p>Stay hydrated,<br />
Luke</p>
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		By: gail		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2021 16:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You mention that the saltless water system only works well for descaling of moderately hard water, and not severe hard water. My water sample test gave a number of 376 for hardness. I assume that this is too high for a saltless system to be effective. Is this true. I am, mostly interested in protecting an on demand hot water heater. 
thank you]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mention that the saltless water system only works well for descaling of moderately hard water, and not severe hard water. My water sample test gave a number of 376 for hardness. I assume that this is too high for a saltless system to be effective. Is this true. I am, mostly interested in protecting an on demand hot water heater.<br />
thank you</p>
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		By: Luke George		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2020 15:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-7222&quot;&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Dave

I have written a review of &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mrwatergeek.com/tier1-water-softener-review/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener noreferrer&quot;&gt;Tier1 salt-based softeners&lt;/a&gt; but have not yet investigated its salt less options.

My personal favorites when it comes to whole house filter and salt free conditioner combos are &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.springwellwater.com/product/dual-systems/water-filter-salt-softener/?oid=10&#038;affid=11&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener noreferrer ugc&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=XGumC3sj/08&#038;mid=36667&#038;murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquasana.com%2Fwhole-house-water-filters%2Frhino-1-million-gallons%2Fsalt-free-water-conditioner%2Fuv-filter%2Fproinstall-100237121.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener noreferrer ugc&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;. 

But I&#039;ll look into Tier1 saltless for a future review - thank you!

Stay hydrated,
Luke]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-7222">Dave</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Dave</p>
<p>I have written a review of <a href="https://www.mrwatergeek.com/tier1-water-softener-review/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Tier1 salt-based softeners</a> but have not yet investigated its salt less options.</p>
<p>My personal favorites when it comes to whole house filter and salt free conditioner combos are <a href="https://www.springwellwater.com/product/dual-systems/water-filter-salt-softener/?oid=10&amp;affid=11" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer ugc">this</a> and <a href="https://click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=XGumC3sj/08&amp;mid=36667&amp;murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquasana.com%2Fwhole-house-water-filters%2Frhino-1-million-gallons%2Fsalt-free-water-conditioner%2Fuv-filter%2Fproinstall-100237121.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer ugc">this</a>. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;ll look into Tier1 saltless for a future review &#8211; thank you!</p>
<p>Stay hydrated,<br />
Luke</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2020 15:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is your opinion of the tier 1 brand salt less water  conditioner]]></description>
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		By: Luke George		</title>
		<link>https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-3920</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2019 14:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-3915&quot;&gt;Maria Greene&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Maria 
It&#039;s difficult for me to comment on Flow Tech as I&#039;ve never used it personally.
However, I&#039;m very skeptical of so called &quot;magnetic&quot; or &quot;electronic&quot; water conditioners like Flow Tech. I once tried a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mrwatergeek.com/magnetic-water-softener/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer&quot;&gt;magnetic system and it was a total waste of money&lt;/a&gt;.
MY SUGGESTION:
Go for something like the &lt;a href=&quot;https://amzn.to/2XVngCR&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener noreferrer&quot;&gt;Eddy Electronic Water Descaler&lt;/a&gt; if you really want to save money and space because this system has a lot more verified customer reviews and places like Amazon will provide you with a reliable customer satisfaction guarantee and option to refund (without hassle) if it doesn&#039;t work properly.
But if you have extremely hard water then you will really need one of the more powerful whole house options mentioned in this article.
Best wishes,
Luke]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-3915">Maria Greene</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Maria<br />
It&#8217;s difficult for me to comment on Flow Tech as I&#8217;ve never used it personally.<br />
However, I&#8217;m very skeptical of so called &#8220;magnetic&#8221; or &#8220;electronic&#8221; water conditioners like Flow Tech. I once tried a <a href="https://www.mrwatergeek.com/magnetic-water-softener/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">magnetic system and it was a total waste of money</a>.<br />
MY SUGGESTION:<br />
Go for something like the <a href="https://amzn.to/2XVngCR" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Eddy Electronic Water Descaler</a> if you really want to save money and space because this system has a lot more verified customer reviews and places like Amazon will provide you with a reliable customer satisfaction guarantee and option to refund (without hassle) if it doesn&#8217;t work properly.<br />
But if you have extremely hard water then you will really need one of the more powerful whole house options mentioned in this article.<br />
Best wishes,<br />
Luke</p>
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		By: Maria Greene		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2019 13:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Luke, 
I was happy to come across your website.  Just like a prior comment, I am interested in the Flow Tech water softener system because I don&#039;t have a lot of space for a traditional water softener in the room where the main water line comes into the house.  However, I&#039;m feeling skeptical about the Flow Tech as I can&#039;t find any good reviews on it that are from a neutral source.  However, I have found reviews claiming that it is a scam.  Your unbiased opinion is greatly appreciate here.  Thanks for any feedback you can provide.  Best, Maria]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Luke,<br />
I was happy to come across your website.  Just like a prior comment, I am interested in the Flow Tech water softener system because I don&#8217;t have a lot of space for a traditional water softener in the room where the main water line comes into the house.  However, I&#8217;m feeling skeptical about the Flow Tech as I can&#8217;t find any good reviews on it that are from a neutral source.  However, I have found reviews claiming that it is a scam.  Your unbiased opinion is greatly appreciate here.  Thanks for any feedback you can provide.  Best, Maria</p>
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		By: mrwatergeek		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2018 16:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-608&quot;&gt;Daniel Locke&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Daniel
Many thanks for sharing your opinion, feel free to keep us posted on your progress.
Best wishes,
Luke]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-608">Daniel Locke</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Daniel<br />
Many thanks for sharing your opinion, feel free to keep us posted on your progress.<br />
Best wishes,<br />
Luke</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2018 19:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always owned a salt water softener so it was good reading about the pros and cons of the non salt ones. I don&#039;t have a problem hauling salt bags and I love my water softener so I won&#039;t be switching anytime soon!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always owned a salt water softener so it was good reading about the pros and cons of the non salt ones. I don&#8217;t have a problem hauling salt bags and I love my water softener so I won&#8217;t be switching anytime soon!</p>
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		By: mrwatergeek		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2018 19:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-386&quot;&gt;Molly Schreiner&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Mollly,
I think the Flow Tech salt free water softener is as good as any of them. Personally, however, I prefer &lt;a href=&quot;https://click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=XGumC3sj/08&amp;mid=36667&amp;murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquasana.com%2Fwhole-house-water-filters%2Frhino-1-million-gallons%2Fsalt-free-water-conditioner%2Fuv-filter%2Fproinstall-100237121.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener noreferrer&quot;&gt;Aquasana&#039;s Rhino Whole House Water Filter&lt;/a&gt; with a Salt-Free Softener, UV Filtration, Professional Installation Kit
and lasts for 10 years or treats one million gallons.

Slightly expensive but worth it because it&#039;s a high performance machine that both filters and softens without salt.
Hope this helps!
Luke]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mrwatergeek.com/salt-free-water-softener/#comment-386">Molly Schreiner</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Mollly,<br />
I think the Flow Tech salt free water softener is as good as any of them. Personally, however, I prefer <a href="https://click.linksynergy.com/deeplink?id=XGumC3sj/08&#038;mid=36667&#038;murl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aquasana.com%2Fwhole-house-water-filters%2Frhino-1-million-gallons%2Fsalt-free-water-conditioner%2Fuv-filter%2Fproinstall-100237121.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Aquasana&#8217;s Rhino Whole House Water Filter</a> with a Salt-Free Softener, UV Filtration, Professional Installation Kit<br />
and lasts for 10 years or treats one million gallons.</p>
<p>Slightly expensive but worth it because it&#8217;s a high performance machine that both filters and softens without salt.<br />
Hope this helps!<br />
Luke</p>
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